Thornton Memories by Edith
Christensen
I don’t
remember much about my dad, I was only 7 years old at the time he died. That
was the 19th of January, 1910. He died of heart trouble and kidney
trouble. They called the Kidney
problem, Bright’s disease at that time.
We knew it was terminal for at least two weeks before he died. One of the greatest tragedies in American
Fork was the passing of John Thornton.
He and Grandpa
Thornton ran a lumber yard and coal yard up here on 1st North by the Union
Pacific Depot. And they had another
lumber yard up by Pleasant Grove, that the older brother, Alec Thornton, ran
over there. They had the two. My dad was working here in American Fork with
Grandpa. Dad over worked. He had an
uncle Freddy Wright who lived across the road from him, a brick layer. And Freddy was 70 years old and still laying
brick. Mother would get after father for
working so hard. He would say, “I don’t want to have to work when I’m 70 years
old like Uncle Freddy is. I want to get my
working done before then.” But, boy, he
really burnt the candle on both ends. He
had the main responsibility of the lumber work.
Grandpa was there and in the office and took care of the book work in
the office. But father had all of the
running of the yard outside. They would
buy lumber. They had a spur on the
railroad where they could push the lumber car right into the lumber yard. And then they would unload the lumber and put
on their shelves. Father helped quite a
lot with the unloading of the lumber. The lumber was cut and ready to use. They would then sell it to the people for
home building and such . There was quite
a lot of mining work going on up the American Fork Canyon then, my dad got
quite involved with it. They would load
the wagons with lumber to haul up the canyon.
They would haul it with horse and team.
Frank’s dad (Speaking of Frank Greenwood, husband to Jennie Thornton)
used to haul things up the canyon for the mining that was going on at that
time. Father and them would furnish the
lumber for some of the building in the
canyon. They also had a coal yard there.
It was called “A.K. Thornton and Son Lumber and Coal.” Coal was the main heating source of the homes
in those days.
There was a new
mine started up there in the canyon, it was called the “Whirlwind”. Father and grandpa bought some stock in it.
It was usually out of state people that would come and develop these mines.
They would sell stock around here.
Father bought some Whirlwind stock and he used to promise Mother the
world when the Whirlwind would pay off.
She would want to buy something or have something and he’d say, “Wait
until that Whirlwind stock comes in and you can have anything.”
Father did well
financially. They had a good
business. The lumber business was really
good. American Fork was building a lot
of homes at that time and then the mining in the Canyon. That was the only profit that came out of the
Canyon. The mines were lined with boards
to keep the mines from falling in. They did find some [gold], but not much, but
it was profitable. There was some gold and some silver. Never any copper, the copper was in the
Bingham [Canyon] and that way. They did
find some lead. There was quite a market for the lead. It was considered a by product of the mining
business. But there was quite a market
for it and they didn’t waste it.
The house [the
family home] was built before 1900. They
had the home all paid for and it was furnished quite well. They had built the four rooms in the front in
the first place. Then they built a
kitchen, bathroom, and pantry, and put a basement under that part. They didn’t
have a basement under the front part.
Dad was
quite active in the church, but Mother
didn’t do anything in the church. She
was busy raising a family of 7 children.
Mother was always busy at home.
The woman’s main job was to care for the house and children. Women didn’t work outside of the home much
until World War I. Dad was a
seventy. He was chairman of the building
committee when they built this chapel over here. They divided the Wards in about 1901 and in
1903 they built four chapels in American Fork.
We were in the Alpine Stake, but that took in Lehi and Pleasant Grove
and American Fork and Alpine at the time.
At the time of the building of these chapels, the saints in the area had
to provide most of the money for the buildings and a lot of labor was donated
locally. Dad spent a lot of time over at
the chapel. I don’t remember about the
building of it at first. But at first
they had these benches in the chapel and later they got these opera like chairs
to put in the chapel. Mother and I had
been to town and we stopped in there [at the chapel] and it was Saturday night. She said that we would stop in there and see
if your dad is coming home because I know that they are putting the chairs in
today and they wanted to get all of the chairs in before Sunday morning. I remember going in there and he with some of
the people in the ward were in there working to get all of the chairs in there
in time for church Sunday. Dad went to
church every Sunday. Mother and us kids
would go sometimes. In those days, the
mothers stayed home with the small children and babies a lot. We would go to Sacrament Meeting in the
afternoon or Evenings.
Florence was the
oldest child born to John and Sarah. She
was born in February of 1892. Millie was
born in August of 1893. They were only
18 months apart. Then mother had a boy,
Glen, and he only lived for two and a half years old when he died. They had an epidemic of scarlet fever go
through here [American Fork] and it was terrible on children. They lost Glen. I never did know him. Then they had my brother Clyde in 1900. John
and Sarah was sealed in the Temple after Clyde was born. They had Florence, Millie and Clyde sealed to
them and also had Glen sealed by proxy.
I was the first one born in the covenant, I was born in 1902 . Jennie
was born in 1905 and Leora in 1909.
Leora was only seven months old when Father died.
I remember dad
coming home for lunch. He didn’t have a
bicycle. But he did get one for the two
older girls, [Millie and Florence] and he would ride it once in a while. But grandpa had a bicycle and Father would
ride it. Grandpa would ride home first
and have lunch while Dad worked at the lumber yard, then dad would ride
grandpa’s bike home and have lunch. From
the lumber yard it was about a mile to home.
We had a cupboard in the kitchen. The lower part had two doors that
opened, and the upper part was two glass doors for the fancy dishes. The dishes we used most of the time were in
the pantry cupboard. The fancy dishes
were in this cupboard. There was a
little trim scroll type thing on the top of the cupboard and dad would come in
and put his hat up on the trim piece.
When he got ready to leave, he would get his hat down from the top of
the cupboard. I never saw him leave to
work without a hat on. It was like a
felt hat with a small brim.
My parents never
owned a car. My dad had two teams of horses
and wagons to pull the coal and lumber wagons. Uncle Alec, father’s older
brother, had one of the first cars that I ever had a rode in. And Uncle Will had one not too long after
that. But that was quite awhile after
papa died. There were horse and buggies
when father was around. Stores would
deliver things with horse and buggy.
I remember once
that it was my birthday, April 1st, and he came down to the house and brought
me a little knife and fork set. I was
still using that set when I went on my mission.
I don’t know what happened to it after that. He came down to make a delivery in the truck
and he came over to the house and gave my the knife and fork set.
I hardly
remember not having electricity. I think
I was about 3 or 4 years old when it [electricity] came to American Fork. In those days the city would contract with
the power company to the get the power to the city and the city would have to
put in the lines. Father was working and
was on the city council when they were putting in the lines. They didn’t have enough power for the whole
city, and so they took the main part of the city down here. They only planned on coming down to 1st or
2nd West with the power lines. Our house
was just one over and Father said that they just had to make it to our
house. He’d done all of that work for
them supervising and directing. So
Mother said they scrapped up all of the parts from around the town and patched
it together and made it. I remember Mother telling that father said it was half
a block beyond what they had planned on, but because he had worked on everyone
elses’, he gathered up the left overs and patched it up and got to our
house. That was the end of the line.
Aunt Nell’s home did have it and we got some.
But later on we have quite a bit of trouble with that line and power
would go out on us because of the patched up line. And they had to put a new one in.
I remember dad
going up to Portland, Oregon, to a lumberman’s convention. They gave him complimentary tickets to go up
there to it. Mother didn’t go with
him. That was before I went to
school. Clyde went to school before me
and he brought everything home from school for me. And I had the measles at the time that dad
was up there. He was worried about me
because some of the measles were bad and some kids died from it. Mother moved the bed from the bedroom out by
the stove. The bedrooms weren’t
heated. We had transoms over the window
in the living room and they were fancy pieces of glass. The doctor made us put
the blinds clear up to the top of the window so it was almost completely
dark. I remember when Father came home,
he had brought candy home for the kids.
It was a box of stick candy. The
kids each got a box and thought they came from Portland. Years later we found out dad had gotten off
the train and on the walk home had stopped at Uncle Will’s drug store in
American Fork and got the candy.
There were very
few movies then. We did have a movie
house, I don’t know when the first one came here. It wasn’t very often that we
went to the movies. The main recreation
was the church. The church would do
dances, and plays. Jennie took piano
lessons, I never did. We had a piano,
father had bought it before he died. And
Millie and Florence was supposed to take lessons, Florence didn’t like it at
all and Millie didn’t like it too well.
Jennie took lessons more than the rest of us. It was a good piano. It was a Davenport Tracey. I never will forget when we bought it. There was a man by the name of Nelson who was
selling pianos. He had to hard sell them
in that day and age. People didn’t just
go in and pick out a piano. He had to
come and make the man believe he needed the piano. I can remember that Nelson would be down
there and they [Nelson and father] would sit at the table, one on one side and
the other on the other. And Nelson would
stomp his hand down on the table and say “John Thornton, this is the best deal
I’ve got for you and it is now or never.”
Father was used to bargaining with people and people with bargain with
him for lumber. He was bargaining with
Nelson on the piano. Finally we got
it. Mother never did play. Jennie was the only that ever did anything
with it. So we told her she was the one who could have the piano, because she
was the one who had played it. It [the
piano] is still up at Idaho, Elaine, [Jennie’s daughter] had had it all
refinished and such now. Father
had a sister, Sadie Thornton.
Grandpa’s house was down the street from here and about a block. Sadie was a good piano player, she would
accompany everyone that would sing at church.
She was also playing the organ in church. And she would play the piano in church, and
she did an awful lot of accompanying them.
She had a sister, Fern, who didn’t do much with it, and her older
sisters didn’t do anything with it. But
Sadie was the best piano player. She
married Hide Willis from Lehi and died awful young. She developed a health problem, she would
just kind of pass out and never did know what it was. She would be going about
doing work and all of the sudden she would pass out. She would come out of it and be okay in
awhile. I don’t know what it was. Grandma Thornton didn’t hardly ever want to
let her out of her sight. When she got
married, Grandma Thornton was upset.
Grandma didn’t think she should get married. But her husband was good to her and took good
care of her. They had two children. I
believe, but grandma had to almost raise those kids because of the health
problems.
When we were little
mother would fix cooked cereal quite a bit for breakfast. We would have Oatmeal and Cream of
Wheat. There wasn’t the dry cereal like
there is now. We would have rolled
oats. Sometimes in the bottom of the
box of cereal there was a cup or dish and saucer. We would have Mother buy the brand with the
dishes in the bottom.
We had
chickens in the chicken coop and we would have chicken once in awhile. Then we had the eggs. But we had to buy all of the other meat. There was meat markets all around town. I think we had meat about 4 or 5 or maybe 6
times a week or more.
We usually
planted a garden. Mother’s father,
Grandpa Shelley, was a farmer and he used to come and plant our garden, even
before father died. Dad wasn’t much of a
farmer. He would have Grandpa come up
and plant the garden and Dad would water it and we would harvest the
things. In the summertime we would have
quite a lot of things out of our garden.
And in the backyard, they would plant potatoes and we would have potatoes
all winter long. We had a place to keep
the potatoes and they would be okay all winter long. We canned a lot of things from the
garden. We had everything down there on
the lot. We had 8 fruit trees in
all. Four on each side. Plums, pear and
peaches. And raspberries in the middle
of the fruit trees. In the front yard,
he planted a strawberry patch. Then in
the back we had the garden. We were
pretty self sufficient. We had to be, because you couldn’t buy things in the
stores. The stores would have hardware, and clothing and yard goods, but not
even ready made dresses, you had to make your own clothes. They also had laces and things like
that. I don’t remember as a kid buying
groceries out of the stores.
We didn’t dry much
food, but some people did. The neighbors
had a tool shed out back and they would dry fruit on the top of their tool
shed. Mother would bottle all kinds of
fruit and things. She made pickles and
everything. I remember screwing the lids
on for mother. She would fill the
bottles and they were hot. We would get
a wet cloth and hold the bottle and tighten the lid right tight. She would put the lid on and have one of us
come in and tighten the lids for her. If
Clyde was around he would tighten them.
She always figured she didn’t get them turned tight enough. That was a big deal, we would bottle hundreds
of quarts of fruit. We had cupboards
down stairs and had a one room cellar downstairs under the kitchen. It had cupboards built right into the
walls. We could keep milk and that down
there for two or three days. We never
had a refrigerator in that house, as long as I lived there, and I left there in
1925 for my mission. Aunt Lide had one,
but she would have to put ice in it. It
was an ice box, not electric like now.
We didn’t have a cow, so we would buy about a quart of milk a day. You couldn’t buy milk out of the store, you
had to find a farmer and buy the milk from him. A lot of things were just traded back and
forth as well as the use of money to buy things.
Mother used to
bake bread, 8 loaves in one big pan at a time.
Aunt Lide never had any children.
She was always buying remnants that would go on sale and she would give
them to Mother. Sometimes we would get a
new dress out of one of the remnants. We
had our pictures taken when I was in the first grade. I had this plaid dress on and I wore it to
school on the day of pictures. When mother saw the pictures, she said, “Why
didn’t you tell me, [it was picture day] I wouldn’t have let you wear that dress.” I said that she shouldn’t have made me wear
it anyway because I never liked it. And
I didn’t want it. Anyway, I didn’t know it was picture day. We were embarrassed over that dress. She made all of our clothes. She used to make Aunt Lide’s too. Aunt Lide would buy the stuff, but she never
did any of her own sewing. Mother used
to do the sewing for Grandma and all. She was a really good seamstress. She wore her sewing machine out. I bought her a new one after Father
died. She didn’t use it too much because
it was just a few years before she died.
I went on a mission and I never saw the sewing machine after that. Mother taught me to sew, but I don’t know how
to sew anymore. I didn’t make much head
way on sewing after I came home from my mission. Millie had a sewing machine, but I didn’t use
hers much. I started buying things. Jennie sewed a lot.
Dad was only
sick about three weeks before he died.
I remember on Christmas Day, 1909, he didn’t dress up. He had dressed up and gone to work on every
day of my whole life. On this Christmas
day, he didn’t dress up, he put on his robe and house slippers and sit in a
chair all day. And the day after
Christmas, he didn’t go to work, because he was sick. He had been really sick for two or three
weeks, but he didn’t want to give up, he was just hanging in there and hanging
in there. My brother, Clyde and I were
staying up at Aunt Lide’s, mother’s sister’s house. She didn’t have any children, but she was
really good to us. We had a tray nurse.
We didn’t have a hospital in town then, Provo was the closest one. We got a registered nurse from the Provo
hospital to come over and take care of my dad.
Then he had an Aunt Emma Miller, his mother’s brother’s wife. She used to take care of newborn babies and
such like that. She came and stayed,
kind of mostly the night shifts, and let the other nurse take care of him
during the day. He was only sick there
for about three weeks and he was gone.
Mother never did survive that, she never did get over that. I wasn’t too
enthused about Christmas after my mom and dad died.
She [mother]
never remarried. She wouldn’t have considered it. I think somebody suggested
marriage once to twice, but she had no other love in her life, but my dad. She used to say she just wanted to live long
enough to get the children raised and then she didn’t care any thing about any
thing after that. She just wanted to get
the children raised.
My mother never
did survive my father’s death. All she
was concerned about then was getting us kids through school and married and off
of her responsibility. She just had no
interest in life at all. She took good
care of us and she was home and didn’t have to go out to work. The lumber company allowed her $500 a year
and then the rest of us, we all had to go to work because we couldn’t live off
of that. Father had had $1500 in life insurance and that was quite a bit. The lumber company said they would pay all of
the burial expenses. We didn’t have too
many doctor bills, he was only sick about three weeks and he was home all that
time. That way she could keep all of the
insurance money. But the lumber company took the money and borrowed it from her
and paid her interest on it. And then
they would pay it [the principal amount] back if, as and when she wanted
it. I don’t think we ever got it back
until Jennie went to school. It was only
there and we were only drawing interest on it until then. When Uncle Alec was wanting to only pay the
interest on it, I said that he had to pay the interest and the principal
because Jennie needed it. I didn’t need
it because I was working at the bank right out of the high school.
[ When asked about
all the family pictures taken, she responded....] They took lots of pictures in those days.
There was a photographer in town and families would have their picture taken
quite regularly. Families would have
their picture taken and when a new child came along they would have a baby
picture taken, then when the child was about 6 or 8 months old, then they would
again when the children got a little older.
I had my picture taken once with Clyde, and Jennie had hers taken on a
separate one and Leora on a separate one.
Millie and Florence were on one together, I think it was their gradation
one. They graduated just one year
apart. There was only two years of high
school when they went through. These
particular pictures spoken of were taken right after father died.
Florence had had
her two years of high school the year Father died. And he wasn’t feeling very good and mother
had poor health, she had had this baby [Leora] in June and he was having heart
trouble in December. Since Florence had
graduated from high school, Father promised her if she would stay home with
Mother for that one year and help mother with the baby, with him not well. He would send her over to BYU the next
year. Millie was finishing high
school. But he died and Florence didn’t
get to go to BYU. She and Millie both
got married real young, they didn’t wait like I did.
[When asked about
school, she responded.....] I just went
to the regular school all of the grades.
When we were six years old we went to a kindergarten and then we went to
the first grade when we were seven. Dad
died when I was in the first grade.
I was baptized
by Elisha Bolly. The parents didn’t do much of the baptizing in those days. The
third ward was in charge of the baptism that day, and so the bishop of that
ward, John R. Henry, was the one that confirmed me. I was baptized in May. They just had baptisms once a month
them. I wore my cousin’s pajama like
things to be baptized in. It was in a
font in the chapel.
The old
Harrington school was just eight rooms in the top and eight in the bottom. Now there has been eight more rooms built
on. But at that time, there was an old
building that they called the Science Hall.
And they added on to the Harrington School so it was connected with a
hallway. I remember because I went to
some classes in the old Science building. We had two classes in the room at the
time, and we would stay in the same room all the time. We had two third grade and two fourth grade
classes and they didn’t have enough for more classes. So they made one room with third grade on one
side and fourth grade on the other side.
That was the class I was in for the third grade. One day the teacher
told me she was going to move me up to the fourth grade. So I was moved to the other side of the
room. I told my mother and she said she
didn’t want me to be moved up. But
Mother never spoke to the teacher about it and I never told the teacher what
Mother said. So I did the third and
fourth grades in one year. Having done
so, I got through the eighth grade in eight years and not nine years.
Harrington school was about five grades there.
The Fork School had three rooms down stairs and three rooms
upstairs. I was there for fifth, sixth
and seventh grades. In 1912 they built a
new high school and so the eighth grade went up there and had the four grades
of the high school at the new school because they had more room up there. I had four years of high school. I had two years of typing in school. I had an extra year and didn’t get
any credit for the second year because I had all of the credit they would allow
me. But I got the privilege of going in
just to keep in practice. And I was doing work for some of the school teachers
that they wanted done typing. I went in once a day for about a forty-five
minute period to go in just to keep in practice. I guess that was a little against the rules
and regulations, I guess. There was one
other boy and I that wanted a commercial arithmetic class and they said that
they couldn’t teach a class with just two in there. So the teacher went over to the BYU and took
a course over there and bought the book for the Leo and I. So we had to work right in the class with the
other students and Leo and I couldn’t get in at the same time either. So we would go into a regular bookkeeping
class and the teacher would give us what help we needed individually. But we had to do most of it ourselves and it
was a good course. I am glad that I took it. The High School was pretty
advanced with classes. I didn’t go to
college even though I got a scholarship to the U of U. I was second in the high school. One boy was ahead of me. My average was 93.15 and his was 93.3. We were so close in grades that they had both
of us represent the class. I had to give
a speech at graduation. I think I
worried more about that than anything during the whole school year. They had the graduation at the
Tabernacle. We had 45 graduate in our
class. That was the biggest class yet for the high school. Each year there was a few more
graduates. Alpine and Highland students
were bussed down for the high school.
The first school bus was a sheep camp type wagon. It was a covered wagon and they had a row of
seats on each side. I never did ride in
it, but I did see it. I really liked
school.
We had Primary
and MIA on weekdays. On Sunday we had
Sunday school in the mornings and then had Sacrament Meeting in the afternoon
or evenings. I went through the Primary
and MIA. They had YWMIA and YMMIA. We used to have it on Tuesday nights. They did things similar to now. We didn’t do as much outside though. We did some class work and gospel learning.
They didn’t have seminary until I was out of high school.
I used to come
home for lunch from school. But in high
school when I got a job, I would stay at school during lunch and work on school
work for part of the lunch time during my last year of school. It was funny, at the main entrance of the
building was a the double door. But
everyone would go in the West Entrance.
The stairway went off of the hall and for our senior year, a bunch of us
girls would go down to the bottom of the stair way and sit on the stairs to eat
our lunches. We would start at one end
and take a bite of the lunch and pass the lunch on to the next person. We would
pass it down the whole row and each one would take a bite of the others
lunches. We got so we would tell them
what kind of sandwich to bring in their lunches. There was about eight of us. The teachers
would say why don’t you get into the lunch room or something, but they would
not bother us because we were seniors. I
used the extra time at lunch for studying.
I was working at the Drug Store while I was in the high school and I
would work from 4 to 10 o’clock each night after school.
When asked what
they did as young children in their free time, she responded....] When we were little we would study at nights
the lesson from school. In the summer we
would play games and that around outside.
Hide and seek was one of the games. We would come up to the corner and
the light poles were out in the middle of the intersection at that time. The poles would run down the middle of the
street and there was also horses driving {because there wasn’t cars then} on
both sides of the street and we would always come up to that corner and we used
to run around them. But when it got dark
I would get scared and I would quit. I
never did any traveling with the family as a little kid. It was horse and buggy
or on the railroad.
Uncle Will was
good to us. He was running the drug
store and Uncle Alec was running the lumber yard here. Uncle Will was the younger brother and Uncle
Alec was older. Grandpa run it about two
years and then he give it up and they sold it. When they sold the lumber
yard, they opened up a general
merchandise store in Pleasant Grove and later they had a drug store over there
too. So they had quite a bit of
business. Once the lumber yard in
American Fork was sold, all of their business interest went to Pleasant Grove. My cousin went over there and worked for
Uncle Alec at the lumber yard, he gave her a job. I was quite annoyed and I complained to my
mother about Uncle Alec not giving me a job.
Of course her family was big and she needed the job too. Uncle Will gave me a job. We weren’t partners with Uncle Will at
all. But he was good to us. I worked in the drug stores for the last
three years I went to high school. I
would go down there at 4:00. I would
come home about 10:00 at night, and all by myself I would walk home at
night.
Jennie worked at
the Drug Store too. She really might have put more time in at the drug store
than I did because I went to the bank as soon as I got out of school.
One time I was
working over at the canning factory in the office for two or three
summers. We had an Uncle Alec that lived
in Pleasant Grove and he got my a job over there. I worked two or three summers over there
before I finished high school. And the
last year, they made me promise to stay through the tomato run. School started and I had to miss three weeks
of school. I went and registered for my
classes and then told them I had to stay at the canning factory until this run
was through, which would be until the frost came. That was when the tomatoes would be done. I guess if I ever prayed for frost, that was
the time I did. I missed three weeks
when I came back to school. I had had
Algebra and so had registered for Chemistry.
The Chemistry teacher, he wouldn’t let me in his class. He said that he
wasn’t going to go back and pick that up.
The principal said the you’ve got to let her in this is her senior year
and she needs it to graduate. She is
registered for it. He went and checked
on all of my records back for the previous three years and he said what she
lacks to qualify in Science, she has enough Mathematics to qualify. So I didn’t have to take the Chemistry
class. But my brother Clyde, he took
Chemistry, of course he went into the drug business and he needed some of
that. When I was taking one of my
science classes I would ask him what I needed to know and he would tell me
instead of me having to read the book.
Those were some hectic days.
We spent more
time with Grandpa and Grandma Shelley than with Grandpa and Grandma
Thornton. We would go to Grandma
Shelley’s a lot, that was mother’s mother.
But our relationship with father’s side wasn’t much, part of it was due
to my dad’s death so early. We lived
closer to the Thornton’s and mother was still involved with the lumber business
that they were in. But as families go,
the Shelley’s were closed than the Thornton’s were. We would have family dinners with the
Shelley’s. I don’t remember eating meals
in Grandma Thornton’s house. We walked
wherever we went and sometimes we would walk down and stop in at Grandma
Thornton’s for a little while. She would
sometimes, give us a cookie or something, but we never ate meals there. Grandpa Thornton was a business man. He would sit for hours at Uncle Will’s store
and talk to Ben Greenwood. Mother said
she didn’t know what John [Father] would have to say about his dad wasting so
much time doing nothing. John was always
busy. Mother’s sister lived down
the block a little ways and we would go there a lot. Grandpa Shelley was a farmer. He was quite a
very, very fine man and I have a lot of respect for him. And Grandma Shelley
was pretty dominating down there, as the English women were. She ran the house.
Mother had an
older sister, we called her Aunt Lide, she married Joe Wilde and they never had
any children. We went to their home a
lot and they were good to us.
[ After Aunt Lide
in their family,] then there was mother,
and then Aunt June. She married
Arthur Wright and they went to Bingham to live and he worked in the
laundry. He had a laundry business in
Salt Lake and then went to Brigham to live and did laundry there. Bingham was a wild place to live in those
days. There was only one narrow street
going up all the way. The Denver and Rio Grande Railroad came into the lower part
of Bingham and Aunt June lived just over across the creek and across the road
and then you went up about eight or ten steps to get to her house. She was up on the side of the hill. You could reach out their bathroom window and
touch the mountain on the side. I don’t
know how they ever got the house put in there.
Up above there was another rail road
track on the side of
the mountain. That was an electric one.
The Denver and Rio Grande came in across the street from where she
lived. Uncle Arthur ran the laundry
there for a long time. Later on, they closed the laundry and he would just do
the pickups. He would put in on the train and ship it into Salt Lake to have
the laundry done. A few days later it
would come back on the train. Bingham
was something else. We went up there
about once a year to visit Aunt June.
They would come down quite often.
And in 1920, one of their family died.
Aunt June had a son, the same age as me, Steve, he was about eighteen
when he died. He had a boy friend that
he was as close as could be, and they each had their girl friends. I don’t know what happened, but the one girl
Steve was supposed to marry, he didn’t marry.
Later on he married the girl friend of his boy friend. Uncle Arthur was the bishop up there. The church was up on the side of the hill
about halfway up. We went up about 20
steps to a platform and then up about 20 more steps to the church. We went up
there for about three funerals. Steve
had died, and then J.S. who was Jennie’s age died .J.S. got kicked with a horse. There was a man who lived just down the hill
from Aunt June and he was a blacksmith. He shoed the horses. J.S. liked to stand and watch the man shoe
the horses, one day he got kicked with a horse.
And they claim that contributed to his death. That was in December 1920 just before
Christmas, and 11 months later the other son died and 11 months later, her
husband died. That left just Glen, the
boy in the middle and he was going to school at that time in the University of
Utah. And Aunt June was left up there
alone. She moved down and lived with Aunt Lide.
Glen went on to School and would come down here on the weekends. She
lost two boys and a husband in 22 months.
She did a lot of crocheting and hand work to occupy her time.
Leora was
the baby of our family. Her death was a
Halloween tragedy. I had had this little
Halloween costume mother had made me.
It was made of that cheap material.
It was a little Indian costume with sleeves on it. The sleeves had
fringes on them. They had used it to dress up on Halloween time or two and this
year Leora put it on. She went over to Aunt Nell’s. We had a gate between us, and we had a land
that we both shared in between us, half and half. Our chicken coops went over into their yards
and barns. Leora was over there at Aunt
Nell’s. Mother went outside with
her. Leora had this parchment Jack ‘o
Lantern. Millie and Warren had been to
Salt Lake and gotten married. She
[Leora] was the little girl in the family and they had gotten this and brought
it home to her and she had used it. She
got it out for the second time. It was
kind of parchment, it had a hole in the top, but didn’t have a lid on it. It had a candle in there. You lit the candle to light up the
pumpkin. She went over to Aunt
Nell’s. Aunt Nell had quite a family of
children, the youngest was about a year old.
Leora was trying to show it [the jack ‘o lantern] to the baby. And she kind of reached down to hold it and
show the baby that it wouldn’t hurt her, because the baby was kind of scared of
it. The fringe on the sleeve on the costume caught onto the flame in the jack
‘o lantern there. And her dress caught
on fire. Aunt Nell was in the bathroom giving one of her children a bath. Leora ran outside and got frightened and run
back and there was some boys playing Halloween on the other side of the
fence. One of the boys saw her come out
of the house and saw her dress on fire. He jumped over the fence and by then
she went back in the house. By then all
the kids were screaming and Aunt Nell came out and she had a towel in her hand
and she wrapped it around Leora and they boys were there by then. Mother had
walked around to the front of the house after she watched Leora go over there.
She had made sure that Leora got into Aunt Nell’s house and then came around
the front of the house. There were some kids out there Halloweening and Mother
was watching what they were doing.
Mother saw her run out of Aunt Nell’s house with the dress on fire. Mother ran through the lot and the gate to
get over there. But Leora had gone back
in the house, and came out the second time. Mother was over there. That was terrible. They brought her home, they didn’t have any
hospitals there. They called the doctor
and had two doctors come down there. They were peeling, I remember them peeling
the skin off of her arm. Her arm was
really the only thing that was burned.
Her hair wasn’t burned and her head wasn’t burned, she had a tight
little cap on. And her face wasn’t
burned. I remember her asking the doctors if the skin would grow
back on, cause she was watching them work on her. She finally passed out. They didn’t have
anything to give her like they do now days to put them out. She lived about 23 hours after that. That was
a Saturday night and she died that Sunday night. She was right there at home when she died. The doctors said that it was the shock of the
whole thing that killed her, they said the burns could have been controlled.
They were using olive oil and lime water. I had never heard tell of them
before, but that was what they were using, olive oil and lime water. But I remember him telling mother several
years later, if we would have had the stuff that we have now, we could have
saved her. It was the shock more than the burns. The skin was burned, but it wasn’t too deep
down. It was the outer layer. She would
have had some scars. Leora was six in
June, she had started school and loved school. She just loved school. That was
all she could talk about as she was there conscious or unconscious. They just had her there on two chairs put
together with pillows on them. They had her on the kitchen table in the first
place and then put her on the two chairs.
I was 13 at the time she died and Jennie was 10.
[talking about
the picture of Leora hanging on her wall].
My mother’s sister Aunt Lide didn’t have any children, but she raised a
nephew that was her husband’s relative. He, the nephew, when he got old, joined
the Navy. When he was over in China, he
had Aunt Lide send the baby picture of Leora and he had that painted over there
in China. It was all rolled up in a metal coil when it was brought here. It is oil on silk. It is really a work of
art. It was painted by the people in
China. It wasn’t framed. Jennie got the picture after Clyde died and
Maude remarried and they were going through some of the old family things. Jennie got some of the family things. One time when Elaine was going through some
of the pictures, she found this picture and had it framed. At the same time she found that picture on
the wall of my father. (The picture of
my father was taken in 1893, before I was born.)
[Talking about
how she got her first job at the bank.]
The Chipman people had stock in the canning factory and they were over
there at a stock holders meeting and saw me working over at there one day. Mr.
Chipman saw me and wanted to talk to me at the office one day. He was the
counselor in the bishopric and he knew me and I knew him. I was kind of close with Mary and Helen, his
daughters. One day at Church, he said
when I got through school to come in and see him. I never applied for a job. I graduated from High school on Friday and on
Monday, I went up to the bank and he wasn’t there. But his brother was there. He said, are you Edith. I said yes and he
said come here and there’s the typewriter.
I had learned typing in school. I
didn’t have shorthand though in High school. I took a correspondence course
once in shorthand, but I never finished it.
I didn’t need it at the bank. I
used to write it down on the type writer as they talked. That saved a lot of
time. I went up to the other bank and
they had a secretary there that all she did was type. She just worked part
time, and she kind of wanted to quit. She would come just a half day. Then I
wrote my own letters. I had a good
experience at banking and I never regretted what I did, but it lasted longer
than I thought it was going to. It took
me a long time to get married.
I think Leora’s
death contributed to Mother’s death. She
never did survive that. That was a terrible thing. We all felt it could have
been avoided. An accident could always have been allowed if you knew a head of
time, but that wasn’t. Mother never did
survive that. Between father’s death and that.
She eventually died of kidney problems and heart trouble. Jennie could have inherited the kidney
problems from her parents. Mom died
in 1922, I remember is was in the afternoon.
I was 20 and Jennie was 17. I was on my own when mother died. Jennie wasn’t, she was still in school. Mother had this money from the lumber yard,
it was $500 a year. And Uncle Alec wanted to close it out after mother
died. I said that he couldn’t because
Jennie had to have some help until she gets through school. Cause I don’t need
it, I’m working and Clyde doesn’t need it, but Jennie is entitled to it. My dad put in his life at the lumber yard,
and they owe dad. The investment was
there and so they still paid the $500 a year and that was what Jennie had to
live on. They quit paying the dividend to Jennie as soon as she got
married. I’m not so sure they didn’t
quit before. I didn’t get anything after
I went to the bank. After mother died,
we stayed there in the family house for awhile.
Then Clyde got married divided off the house and took the two west
wings. That marriage didn’t last. She was
a lovely girl, but he didn’t have sense enough to treat her right. He just
wanted everything his way and to be waited on.
She was a lovely girl. She was a
Jones girl from Lehi. They got divorced
and she died not too long after that. She didn’t have good health. She really I think shehad a health
problem. But he knew it when he married
her. I was always very much annoyed at
him other that. I wasn’t really very
enthused about his marriage to Maude. Of
course he met Maude. Maude came to town
about the time I went on my mission. I
remember because the girls in the ward gave a party for me and they invited
Maude. That was the first I had met
Maude was at this party. That was when I went on my mission. I didn’t know her
much, Clyde married her after that.
Maude kind of put Clyde in his place, I think, I don’t know. Clyde died
young and then she married a kid that was a lot younger than she was. I don’t know, they stayed with it, but it
seemed ridiculous.
Clyde and Maude
were down there [ at the home place] and that was the reason I left there, and
I guess it didn’t work out so good for her [Jennie]. Aunt Jennie Bate, Father’s sister lived in
the next house. Elmer Bate was her
husband. They had a daughter, Carol [or Cleo??], about the same age as Jennie
and she spent quite a bit of time at their house. Clyde and Maude had taken the home where mom
lived. And Florence kept wanting some
money as her share of the home. Florence
wanted it right off the bat, and I said that she couldn’t have it until Jennie
was through and settled. We are not
going to break up the home until Jennie is through school. Mom had said to make sure that Jennie got
through high school and as much college as we could get. I never got my
college, I had a scholarship, but I didn’t take it. Jennie did go for awhile, she got her
teaching certificate, which was about two years. I don’t know that she was ever a certified
teacher, because she got married about the time that she should have been at
that. When Jennie was dating Frank, I
think our grandparents did like Frank.
Jennie lived with Aunt Jen Bates for a few months before she got
married. She lived at the house, but she stayed with Aunt Jennie a lot. I had made up my mind that I couldn’t
tolerate what was going on down there with Clyde and I was going to leave home
for some where. At first, I always
wanted to go to Logan to School. And I got a scholarship for the University of
Utah when I graduated from High School but I couldn’t use it. Clyde was going up there [when I
graduated]. He had been up there one
year for pharmacy and he had to have two years.
Mother had helped Clyde through his first year and she said that if I
would help him through the second year, then he could help you. He never
did. I helped him through his second
year, but he never did help me. I don’t
know. I didn’t like the set up that was
around home there. First I was going to
go to school and get my education. I
always wanted an education, and I never got it.
It was Warren and Millie that decided that they would rather have me go
on a mission than go to school. I don’t know why. I think Warren had talked to
the bishop because the bishop called me in.
And I went on what was supposed to by a eighteen month mission. They called the girls for eighteen months
then.
Jenny and Frank
were going steady when I left on my mission in 1925. I was on my mission and the next thing I
know, they wrote and told me they were getting married. They were married while I was on my
mission.
I left in
November of 1925. I did one week in the
Mission Training in Salt Lake. It had
only started about a year or so before I went in to there. It was really quite new, and it was just one
week. You went to the mission home on
State Street and we went in there and it had only been operating for about a
year or so. Before that you just went up to the church office and were set
apart and went on your mission and they took you to the train and that was the
way it was. We did go to the mission
home and stayed about a week. General
Authorities at the church office building would set the missionaries
apart. It was General Authorities who
set us apart, I don’t remember who it was.
But my Mission President was John H. Taylor. He was a grandson of the John Taylor that was
President of the Church after Brigham Young.
His wife was Rachel Grant Taylor, she was Heber J. Grant’s oldest
daughter. I lived with them for about
sixteen months when I lived at the mission home. They had some fun stories to
tell. Brother Taylor was a nice man. He
died before she did after they came home.
After they came home, they operated the missionary home up there for
several years. And I saw them a time or
two after that at reunions. They came
down here a time or two. He was eventually an assistant to the Quorum of the
Twelve and he came down here to Stake Conferences. And his brother in law,
Clifford Young, lived down here the third house down. He was a grandson of
Brigham Young’s brother, Joseph, and Mrs. Young was Heber J. Grant’s
daughter. I think Heber had five
daughters and no sons. The oldest was the mission president’s wife and the next
was Edith, Mrs. Young. He had one named Lucy, who they nicknamed Ludy.
I went to Chicago
to the headquarters and then they sent me up to Milwaukee and I was up there
for about six weeks and there, and then in Racine for about eight months.
Milwaukee was a big city. I didn’t like Milwaukee, we had to ride the street
cars and I would get so sick. I would
get so sick, that when I got home at night I couldn’t eat. The street cars would make me sick. There was the south branch and the north
branch in Milwaukee. The south was near
the university and was mostly students that were out there. When they asked me to go to Racine, I said
“Is it a smaller place?” and they said
“Yes, and that I could walk more there.”
So I got along better in Racine. We lived out in the west side, the
newer part, in a residential area. And that’s where we did our tracting. So I got along a lot better there.
I was on my
mission on a summer assignment out of Chicago at the time they [Frank and
Jennie] were married. I got back down to
Chicago and got my mail. We were gone up
there about a week or ten days. That was
what they called a country trip, I only did it once. The Elders did the job each summer. But I did go once.
After I had been
out for 10 months, I was called into the mission office. I was in the office
for sixteen months and didn’t get out of there.
I even worked on Saturdays and Mondays.
We were supposed to have one day a week for a Prep Day, to wash your
hair and do a few things.
I used to have to
go down town to the bank every Thursday, and take the money down with me. The Elders used to do it and then there
wasn’t Elders, so I had to do it. They
used to take it in a briefcase, and I worried about a briefcase. So I would put it in an envelope and in a
bigger envelope and would carry it in my hands. I would go to the elevated
train and walk about a half of block.
The elevated train went right down into town and circled and went right
back out again. And they had a line for the South that did the same thing. It came up from south up to the loop, they
called it. It looped and then back out
of town. But if you wanted to go on the
loop, you had to transfer that looped around.
That elevated train handled an awful lot of transportation in Chicago.
In New York, they had subways at the time.
I paid for my
mission out of what I had saved up while working at the bank between high
school and the time I left on my mission.
The mission used to take about forty five to fifty dollars a month when
we were renting places. When I went into
the mission office, they would just charge us fifteen dollars a month. That was the only way I could stay that long,
I had planned on eighteen months. We
would get a lot of free meals when we were out with the people, but in the
mission office we had no chance to get anything like that. I stayed in the mission office and work daily
from 8:00 in the morning to 5 or 6:00 at night.
We would tract a little on Sunday afternoons.
I went in as the
record clerk in the first place. The
branches didn’t do nothing, they sent it all to the mission office and it all
had to be done there. I was doing that
and then the secretary didn’t like the office work. So they let him go back out. So President
Taylor asked if I would handle the secretary work until they could get a
replacement. Well, they never did get a
replacement. I did both jobs for awhile.
They finally got some help to take over the record keeping, but I had to
do the financial all of the rest of the time I was there. I knew how to do it and I didn’t have any
problems with that. I did it for sixteen
months. President Taylor didn’t have any bookkeepers in his mission. He said, “ I’m not going to be caught here at
the end of the year without somebody to do the reports.” He was a dentist and not a bookkeeper. I had gone in to the mission home in
September so I got all of the reports for the first year. I should have been released about May or June
of the next year. But I still stayed on. He never said anything until
September, that was when he said he didn’t want to be caught at the end of the
year. He asked if I would stay. I said if the bank will hold my job. I said I asked them to hold a job for me
until I got back. So he called my Stake President, who was the President of the
Bank, and he said yes they would hold the job. This other girl had accepted a
call to go on a mission, out to this same mission, and they just postponed her
departure. She left as soon as I came
home, she left and I went to work. She
was working somewhere else, but she worked in the bank while I was gone and she
left and went to the same mission when I came home and went back to work at the
bank. She went up and worked in Michigan
and Indiana, I never did work in Indiana.
It was a big mission, there was six big states out there and they had
some big cities out there.
Radio came while
I was on my mission. My first experience was at the mission home in Chicago. I
didn’t know what it was all about. This little thing that they would turn on
and off and it would talk. Then I went
up to Milwaukee to work and just one member up there had one. And when we went
to their home, once in awhile they would turn it on and we could listen. But I didn’t have much experience with it
until I got home from my mission. Then
Millie and Warren had a radio.
I came home in
January 1928. While I was on my mission
nobody died. So I guess I should have
stayed. Just awhile after I got home,
Uncle Joe died and then Aunt Lide died and Aunt June lived in Aunt Lide’s home
for a long time.
Clyde had
married and was living in the home, so Warren and Millie offered me a place to
live and I lived with them. Aunt Hadie
and Uncle Will lived close there too and they offered me a place to stay. She wrote me a letter and offered to have me
stay with them. She had two sons, Ken and Bill, and two daughters, Lucille and
Lella. But I went to live with Millie
and Warren. I thought it would be a few
years, and I lived there for nineteen years.
Warren was a mortician and undertaker.
They were sure good to me. They had three boys and not any girls. One by one they [the boys] all got
married. And there wasn’t anybody home
there, but me for awhile.
After my
mission, I took a week off and stopped and met Millie and she got on the train
with me and we went to California and visited Jennie. Jennie and Frank had gone to California on
their honeymoon. Frank had a brother
living down there, Bert Greenwood. And
they persuaded Frank to stay. Frank was kind of in between jobs. He had been offered some jobs in training up
here. But he took a job with the county
surveying down there and then stayed down there about 18 years, I think, before
they came back up here. I knew that if
I got back on a job I wouldn’t get a vacation for a year, so I said I wanted to
go see her [Jennie before I started back to work at the bank]. Jennie and I were really quite close. She was born in 1905 and father died in 1910
and she hardly remembered him.
I went just about
every year down to California to see them while they were there. I used to take my vacations about every year,
at various times of the year. I went on
the bus only once, but the bus broke down and I said never again. We were doing okay on the bus here and went
down to Las Vegas. When we got there, there was a bus coming east out of Los
Angeles that was having trouble, and they got as far as Las Vegas. They were having trouble and the bus driver
persuaded our bus driver to trade with him.
He said you can make this back to California all right, you won’t have
any problem with them. He told our bus
driver what the problem was. But he said
that he didn’t want to go out across the desert in Nevada with it. So our bus driver traded. And we hadn’t driven, I don’t think about
three or four hours, before it broke down on us. We had troubles and were stalled
overnight. Finally we had to wait for a
bus to come out of Los Angeles and pick us up.
It was 4:00 in the morning when the bus came to get us and we were
supposed to have been there at 8:00 the night before. We got in about 8:00 in the morning. But
Jennie and them had been calling the station to find out. That was one thing,
they didn’t go down to the bus station and wait. They were calling and finding out. They were there to meet me when I got there.
But that was a long trip. That was the only time on the bus. I went on the train several times.
I haven’t had
much of a family life. I have had a hard
time holding onto family. My grandparents all out lived my parents. My dad died in 1910 , mother in 1922, Grandpa
Shelley in 1920, before mother, and Grandma Shelley in 1928. Uncle Joe and Aunt Lide all died about the
same time right after my mission.
After the trip
to California to see Jennie, we came back and I went to the bank to work. I bought my first car right after I got home
from the mission. My parents never owned
a car. My first car was a
Chevrolet. It was $750. I was a Chevrolet Coupe, and that was a
mistake. It was a mistake because you
would always want to take more [people with you]. You didn’t want to go places by yourself, and
you wanted to take others with you, but you only had room to take one other
person with you in a coupe. I didn’t
like it, it was a two seater. I didn’t
have it very long and I traded it off and got me a four door sedan. I had that
car for 10-12 years. I think that was
the car that took me through the war times.
Sometime around
1926-1930, I bought my first home. It
was a home on Second West. It was rented when I bought it. I bought it off the Chipman people who owned
it. I bought it for $2600. That was a
lot of money in those days. I couldn’t
afford to furnish it at the time, so I continued to rent it to the people who
were renting there when I bought it. The
people who were renting it were paying $20 a month in rent.
I took some
classes for business college and banking.
AIB, the American Institute of Banking classes one time. It was one of the largest educational
organizations in the United States at one time.
I think they are still operating. It was owned and controlled by the
banks and I took several classes through them. They would have them over at the
BYU and BYU instructors would be teaching them.
They would line in the county here and we would go over there. I think I went four or five times, that was
after we got automobiles and could go over there. I would go to some of them by myself, after I
got my car. But that was after high
school and that was before I got married.
I got through
the depression okay because I had a job and employment. But it was awful hard on a lot of
people. There was a lot of unemployment
and jobs were hard to get and were not big paying jobs. I worked all the way through and that’s when
the Chipman Bank went out of
business. They started having troubles
and closed in 1932. I stayed and worked
with the banking department for nearly two years liquidating it. That was heart breaking to see the officers
and all of them that I had worked with were all out of the bank and gone. The one Chipman man had died before that, Jim
Chipman, but Wash Chipman, it was hard on him.
We were all out of jobs. I stayed
there and worked and then they were going to liquidate and transfer the
business up to the Salt Lake Office.
They offered me a job up there, but I would have to ride the Orem Train
up there and I didn’t want to have to do that. Clifford Young offered me a job,
I was getting $125 a month and they cut me back to $75 a month. They offered $125 up at the Salt Lake
Office. But I didn’t want to have to
drive to Salt Lake either, so I took the job with Clifford Young. They had a man there who didn’t do half the
work that I did and they didn’t want him to know how much they were paying me,
so they would pay me some under the table.
They had an insurance agency on his own and he paid my out of that for a
little while. They gave me better pay though after no time at all. I stayed there, all together I had 63 years
in banking. I am still a bank director
now. [Interview in August 1996] I took
two years off for a mission, so the 63 years was over a period of 65
years. My grandpa had been a director
in the first bank, my Uncle Will was a director in the other bank. But they neither one had anything to do with
me working there. They didn’t even know
I was there until I had been there for some time. So they didn’t have anything
to do with that.
Jenny and Frank
were moving back up here, it was when the war kind of broke out and Frank moved
back up here. The steel plant was going. He got on there. I wanted them to move
in my place. [the one I was renting out].
There was a Roy Hamshire living in it at the time, he ran a warehouse
that bought and sold produce. He had
just gotten married, quite late in life, and he was living in there. He was the one who was renting it when I
bought it. When Jenny and them came up I
told him that I wanted the place for them. He said, “I’m not moving out. I will pay you $25 a month, but I won’t move
out.” I said, “Roy that’s not the point.
They’re coming up here from California to live and I want that home for them.”
I had wanted it for myself, but I can’t afford to furnish it. They are coming
and I wanted it for them. He said,
“Well, I’m not going to move out.” So I
went to the attorney and had the attorney write him a letter. So the attorney wrote him a letter and he
moved out. He made a little living
quarters in the warehouse and moved into that.
Later now he bought a house a few houses down from here. He was just onry and he was mad at me for
getting him moved out. But I put Jenny and Frank in it.
I met Lewis in
the bank. He used to come in with his father to the bank in the first place.
That was at the Chipman bank in the 1920's.
I used to wait on him, I knew just him name. I knew his brother quite
well and I done business with him, but he was the last man on earth that I
would have considered marriage with. He [Lewis’ brother] dealt in livestock and
he was an outdoor livestock man. He had
a lovely wife, she died quite young, but he never did marry again. He went quite steady with a girl over in
Lehi. He practically lived over
there. I think he stayed the night some
times. They never did marry, I never did
figure out why they didn’t marry. I don’t know why unless he didn’t want to
divide any cash with her. He had a
daughter, Fay, who married a John Clark from here. She was an only daughter and kind of
spoiled. She was dating this John Clark
and he went on a mission over to England.
And she got dating this other guy while he was gone on a mission. And she married this other guy, and then he
went on a mission after they were married. And John came home first because
John had gone first, so she got a divorce from the first one and married
John. The daughter moved to Idaho.
I knew of
Lewis for a long time before we married, but I didn’t have any personal contact
with him until in 1947. His first wife, Daisy, was a Kirkham over in
Lehi, and her sister married Warren Anderson’s brother, Steve Anderson, and I
knew this Lea, and she lived in the next house to Millie and Warren. I knew Lea and I knew of Lewis more or less
through Lea. Daisy died in 1928, the
same year as Grandma Shelley. They both
died in the same week around Christmas time.
Daisy’s niece,
Nelda, married a young man by the name of Layton and they lived up in Layton,
Utah. They had only been married a
little bit. He went in World War I in 1918 and went in the Army. It was one of those when they decided to get
married before he went away. He never
came back. He was on a troop train over in France and the Germans blew up the
train and killed a good many of them on the troop train. Then Lewis married Nelda and she kind of
raised those kids. His second wife died
a year before we were married.
He asked me for
a date in the bank for the first time. Our first date was in April and we were
married August. I think we went to a movie at Orem or something for the first
date. For the second one, we went into
Salt Lake for a play and out to dinner.
One time we went over to Provo and then drove up the Provo Canyon a ways. He pulled off the road and that is where he
proposed to me. Right there in Provo
Canyon. He gave me the ring in July. We
had to wait until August for the Temple to open. Because the Temple wasn’t open in July. The temple was closed the month of July for
renovations and stuff like that. We
were married the first date the Temple opened, 11 of August in 1947. Millie went to the wedding and Jennie and
Frank were living here at the time. I
had had some dating before Lewis, but it didn’t amount to much. I didn’t have very many dates. A couple of
guys I think were interested in marriage, but I didn’t feel like they were the
ones. I didn’t know who the right one
was, but I found out. Lewis was a good
man, he was special.
Lewis was born
and raised in Lehi and he had a farm. He
raised fruit and had honey bees as his big business. And he had had nursery
stock over in Lehi. He told me one time
they would extract a ton of honey a day for two or three day. They would do it
once a year. He had five girls and they
would help him and he had some hired help.
That’s a lot of honey. The honey was the main source of his income. He
used to be called, Strawberry Chris, because he raised a lot of strawberries
and would sell them to the neighbors and all over town. His first wife died and left him six
children. Cleo was only 3 at the
time. Cleo was born in 1925 and his
first wife died in 1928. The grandmother
was living with them at the time and took care of the children. But can you
imagine Lewis trying to look after the six kids and the grandmother. The grandmother was more work than the
children to tell you the truth. It was
his wife’s mother. She had daughters
living around too, but she figured she need to help look after him, I think,
but she made more problems than she solved.
All the girls
were married except for Cleo, and she was planning on getting married and he
sold the farm and moved into an apartment down on Second South. He was living there. The girls thought he
could build a little grocery store and live in the back of it. They had a
little grocery store in the neighborhood where they lived. They had dome some
of their shopping at this little store and they thought it was an ideal thing
for him to do.
Well it was up
there right by the high school. The first day he opened, the high school kids
came in during recess and loaded up their hands full and walked out without
paying for it. He was frantic and didn’t know what to do. After that he locked
the doors during recess. [Eventually] they fixed a window that they could serve
them through. He had a porch out there.
He didn’t run it but a day or two before he knew that he didn’t like it. The girls thought it was ideal and would run
itself, but it didn’t. He had the store
when we got married. Cleo was there at
first, but then she got married right after we got married. She got married
just three of four weeks after we did.
She worked in the store for awhile and then she got a job at the steel
company down here and Lewis got another girl, Reba Robertson, who worked for
him. She was really good. She could handle all of the high school kids. She would give the things to them through the
window he had fixed up. That way they
had to put their money down before she would give them the things they ordered.
It worked out all right. But he didn’t
really like it. He kept staying that he
didn’t like it. I said, “Well I’m not
giving up my bank job, if you don’t like the store. If you don’t like the store, you can sell
it. But I’m not going to quit the bank
and work here.” There wasn’t enough
money in there anyway for what I was making at the bank.
One day there
was a man who came into the bank. He had lived here before and had a big
poultry farm. He sold it out and went on a mission and when he came back he
went up to Idaho and we thought he was going to live up there. But he didn’t like it and came back down here
and came in the bank and said that he was looking for a place to live. I asked
if he was going to go back into the poultry business and he said no he didn’t
want to. He said he would like to get
into something that he and his wife could handle together. So I told him about the grocery store for
sale. That he could operate the store in
the front and live in the back. He said that sounded good and so I gave him the
address and called Lewis and told him that I had just sent up a man that wanted
to look at the because you said that you wanted to sell. The man was gone about
a half hour and Lewis called and said, “Edith, I sold the place.” He didn’t like the place at all. I think that was the biggest mistake that he
made in his whole life. The girls wanted him to buy the store, but they weren’t
there to help him run the store. I told
him I wasn’t going to leave my bank job to take on that job. And so he sold it. We had been there about a year. I asked “Where are we going to live?” He said, “I don’t know but I am going to get
out of here and sell this.” I said, “well, I’ll see if Jenny and Frank will
move out of this place down here.” It
was the place down on Second West that I bought. Jennie and Frank were living
there at the time. So Jennie and Frank started looking for a place to move so
we could move into that house. I had to give them time, they arranged to buy a place
down in the Columbia Village, just down here across the road from where Ray and
Shirley live now.
It told them
nearly a month to find a place so we took a little honeymoon trip back
East. He had a daughter living back
there in Missouri and we went and stayed for a couple weeks. Then we stayed
with Millie for about a week until they were able to move out.
He spent the
winter remodeling and fixing it up. It
had kind of a porch on the back of it and he closed that all it. Then we put on
another bedroom. Then it had three
bedrooms. He spent a lot of time and
money in remodeling it. He fixed the interior quite a bit more. All new cabinets in the kitchen. It was a nice place, but it had been rented
for quite a few years and it wasn’t in too good of shape. We there until he wanted to get back in the
bee business and we bought these two acres up here. [ a little ways out of
American Fork.]
We had to get out
of the city a little ways to raise bees.
I was talking to one of the neighbors and he said he knew someone with
some ground. I wrote to him and he said
yes he would sell. We bought it for $750
for two acres. About 7 years ago, I was
over at the Jordan River Temple doing a session and a lady came up to me and
said, “I don’t think you remember me, but we were the people who sold you the
two acres. We were back East in school
and we were desperate. We needed money
and we didn’t know where to turn for it. You saved our lives.” I said, “I never saved anybodies lives.” She said, “ Yes you did. You bought the land
from us when we needed the money.” I
said that it was the best things that ever happened to us because Lewis said he
wanted a piece of property where he could have some bees and some trees. We built the honey houses first and then
moved up there.
But he got where
he couldn’t handle it. The bees were too
much for him and the two acres. He didn’t have any big equipment. He just had a hand pushing tiller. I wanted him to get a riding tractor but no
he didn’t want to. He would hire the neighbor up there to do the planting and
then he would do all of the cultivating and that was with a little push plow
and that was too hard of work. And he
didn’t like it after he got up there. He
was disappointed in it. I said, “Well,
if you don’t like it up here, I’m not going to quit my bank, I’m not going to
trade my bank job for taking care of bees.”
And it didn’t pay anything like the bank did, so I stayed at the bank. He didn’t realize all of the work the girls
had done that he was trying to do.
Finally he decided to sell that and give up the bees. I didn’t like the
bees that well and he kept saying that he didn’t like them, so we got rid of
them. He did have a few over to his
brother’s place, after he sold that, in Lehi. They wouldn’t let him have bees here in the
town. He had a few over there for awhile
and he finally got rid of those. We
lived up there for about eight years.
Elaine got
married and went to Idaho. Frank Greenwood couldn’t figure out letting
his daughter get married and going up to Idaho to live on a farm. He and his family had been up there, when he
was a youngster. They were kind of homesteading up there around in the
Pocatello Area. He was raised up there as a little kid. It was hard going I guess.
Right starting from scratch. Developing
the area, they didn’t have the machinery and such. Frank’s memory of Idaho wasn’t good. They
moved back down here later and he went to school here and graduated down
here. Frank took mostly correspondence
like classes after high school.
One day a couple
came in the bank and they were looking for a place and I told them we had a
place for sale. I called Lewis and said
that I sent a couple there to look at the place because you said that you
wanted to sell it. Pretty soon, he called and said that he had sold it. I asked, “Where are we going to live?” And he
said, “I don’t know but we are moving out of here.”
We’d been working
on some house plans before then. I had
had this lot for several years. I
didn’t really want to start this one until we had the other one sold, so we
would have the money. I didn’t want to
borrow the money to do it. And so as
soon as we sold it, we moved over on Fifth East and rented a place while we
built this house. [The current house, Edith is living in. August 1996] I never
did want to buy that place on Fifth East, we only rented it. We built this one and I like this home. We built it in 1959. I like every bit of it. We built the one up there too, [on the honey
farm], but it wasn’t the home that this one is.
Lewis had built two homes over in Lehi, and remodeled one. It was his father’s that he remodeled after
his father died. But he built two others
over there. This is the nicest of any he
had, I really like this one. I have no
complaints. He had a floor plan that we
saw. He saw a house up here on Fifth
East that he liked. It had the wide
gables on it, and he liked that idea about it.
But the floor plans for this house called for four bedrooms and they
were all small. But I said that I would
rather have a utility and bigger bedrooms.
So we made the two bedrooms and made them bigger up here. Later on, we finished off the basement. I have done most of the basement after he
died. But we did have some of it done
before. I wanted the utility
upstairs. Most people when they come,
they just fall for the utility. I never
figured that I would want a utility in the basement. And it is just right out the back door. Lewis could come in from the garden and right
into there and not have to come around and into the house. He could come in not having to change his
shoes and everything.
This has been a good home and I never wanted to change
anything about it. Now, I have a
cleaning lady come in every two weeks to clean the house for me.
Note: I, Tammy
Stevenson, tried to keep the story in a time line so it was easier to
follow. I also added those things in
[....] to clarify a little bit. I tried
to use mostly direct quotes from Aunt Edith and she repeated herself sometimes
twice within the same paragraph I left some of the repeats there. I wasn’t sure if she was repeating herself to
add emphasis or if she just hadn’t remembered that she all ready told me.
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